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News4Jax: House Opens Debate On Health Care Overhaul Bill - Health News Story - WJXT Jacksonville

  • huntersxe · 1 month ago
    CONGRESS to Americans >>>>>>>> "GO TO HELL"
    PELOSI to Americans >>>>>>>>>>> "GO TO HELL"
    CORRINE to Americans >>>>>>>>>> "GO TO HELL"
    OBAMA to Americans >>>>>>>>>>> "GO TO HELL"
    DEMOCRATS to Americans >>>>>>> "GO TO HELL"
    .
    Get the message AMERICANS?
    These creeps will get OUR message next NOVEMBER.
  • bustingout · 1 month ago
    we hear that every year
  • rckmom47 · 1 month ago
    With 55% of Americans AGAINST this trillion dollar + bill our representatives have shown that they are NO LONGER working FOR us but doing things THEY want...I think that is called a dictatorship! They ALL need to be held accountable and be put out of office even if it is by FORCE!! How dare they sit up there in their mansions (that WE pay for) and dictate to us what we are and are not going to do! If it's good enough for us then THEY should be on the same health care!!!
  • according2me · 1 month ago
    Looks like 220 people will soon be out of a job.
  • Ninjaman · 1 month ago
    Obama said he wanted Democrat members of congress to vote yes even though it would mean no re-election for many of them. In other words....even though it's not what the voters of this country want vote yes. VOTE THESE PEOPLE OUT!!! They are traitors to America!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOtGr1JFCnE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&feat...
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    PROOF obama's plan is to destroy this nation from within, walks in on a CLOSED MEETING to sway votes ???????

    WAKE UP AMERICA !!!!
  • rollinondis · 1 month ago
    Well he'll get 4 years of fame & flying everywhere at least.He has spent 80% of his time out of the office.

    Repasted from everywhere...

    Obama inherited a 6% unemployment rate. Today it is at 10.2%
    Obama inherited a 1.4 trillion dollar deficit. Today it is at 11 trillion
    Obama inherited an 8 year period of no terrorist attacks on our soil.Now over.
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    Well he got shot down today :-P
  • wishmistress · 1 month ago
    Say goodbye to your freedom. It just passed.
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    OMFG I WAS WRONG IT DID PASS---- OH SCHHIT WE ARE IN TROUBLE NOW -- ANOTHER FREEDOM LOST !!!!!
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    That is why the "Oath Keepers" ( search them ) are gaining in numbers. These "elected officials" have forgotten that they are there to represent US not $$$$$$ and enforce the Constitution.

    This country was founded for FREEDOM & LIBERTY not for money !!!!!!

    What passed is the " Abortion Restriction Amendment Wins Passage in the U.S. House""

    NOT THE HEALTH CARE BILL
  • wishmistress · 1 month ago
    I think I'm gonna be sick.
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    You better get in line NOW because it will be at least a WEEK before you are seen by a Dr.
  • wishmistress · 1 month ago
    It won't matter by then because I'll be too sick to keep.
    They'll just put me to sleep. :(
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    True - SAD - but true.
  • john5146 · 1 month ago
    FREE healthcare for the minorities and illegal aliens IS the Democratic party's agenda and once the American people see what is getting shoved down their throats the elections in 2010 will surely see a big turnover back to Republicans.

    You'll NEVER see another black President in your lifetimes either...we tried it once....saw how his party failed him so and the moderates and centrists who got him elected are bailing out as we speak......

    Sorry about that One Term Barry........
  • IBEBARRYOBAMA · 1 month ago
    Apology accepted. I just wanted my name in the history books. I do not care about anything else anyway. Love you.
  • MrCrispy · 1 month ago
    there's still a chance that it won't make it through the senate if I'm reading this correctly. Maybe once the senators see the backlash this has caused it will make them think twice.
  • wishmistress · 1 month ago
    And maybe if we close our eyes and click our heels...it'll all be a dream.
  • jonah199 · 1 month ago
    Oh my goodness, this issue is hot with everyone. This issue has been being kicked around since the late 1980's and No one had a clue about fixing it then. I dont know about you or where you stand on this issue. The insurance companies have been raking in millions and millions of people get sick every year. But, no one wants to stand up and say this is it we need to find a better way. I am not saying what being done now is as much the same as what happen in 2002 when all the manufacturing jobs were lost to the Seas and no one read the bill. Now are they reading it to help people. Those in congress and senate are not having their health insurance change. If you change one person everyone including those in Washington should be affected. Where are the smart people? Where is the compassion to help those who are in need? Where are we when it comes to standing up and saying if you cant get the job done you need to be removed. This elections on promises need to stop and we need action. We have already lost our position in the world what more do we have to lose. I dont think it about color. It about being a better educated voter.
  • MUDDMOM27 · 1 month ago
    ALL YOU GUYS ARE BUSTING MY GUT ON YOUR RESPONSES, HOWEVER WE REALLY DO NEED TO STAND UP TO THIS MATTER BEFORE HE PUTS US ( THE TAXPAYING CITIZENS OF AMERICA,WHICH ARE BECOMING LESS BY THE MINUTE DO TO UNEMPLOYMENT ) INTO ANOTHER DEFICIT ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER MONIES OF OURS HE HAS GIVEN AWAY. I WOULDN'T BUY A STICK OF GUM FROM THE GOV'T SO WHY DO THEY THINK I WOULD PAY THEM FOR INSURANCE? NOW LET'S MAKE SURE WE ALL UNDERSTAND THIS WE HOULD PASS A HEALTH BILL THAT WILL GIVE US ALL HEALTH CARE BUT WE WILL STILL HAVE TO PAY THEM FOR THIS COVERAGE. AM I THE ONLY 1 SEEING A PROBLEM HERE? WHEN DID THIS COUNTRY GIVE INTO THE GOV'T THAT WE THE PEOPLE VOTE IN AND OUT? THIS IS OUR LAND ( WELL FOR NOW ) WE BETTER GET OUR VOICES BACK IN THE GOV'T BEFORE THEY TAKE THOSE AWAY, TOO.
  • friedchickinandwatermelon · 1 month ago
    You crackas be wacist....
  • capncuda · 1 month ago
    Ya' gotta give it to Zero and the Dems. They know when to steal your liberties,....on the week end in the middle of the night. Just like thieves do!
  • MrCrispy · 1 month ago
    If you really truly believe that the democrats and obama are sitting there every day and night wringing their hands over how a small percentage of this country can't afford health insurance then there will never be any way to convince you otherwise.

    I can only expect that you will be shocked when you are denied some procedure because some bureaucrat felt that they knew more than your doctor. Or that someone you love is denied treatment because they are too old for it to matter. Or when doctor rationing makes it near impossible to see a doctor in any decent amount of time. Or when the government decides what doctor you are allowed to actually see.

    The liberals have succeeded in painting a rosy picture of British and Canadian healthcare but ask yourself this: if their healthcare is so great, why do many come to the US for treatment instead of staying in their own country? A few minutes of research will tell you why. While you're at it, ask yourself why there are provisions in the bill saying that the senators and such are exempt from it? If it's so great why don't they use it too?

    In the end, after 10 years and more than a trillion dollars have gone by, this will really only benefit about 2% of the population. When the government option has put insurance companies accounting for 14% of our economy are gone and those people are jobless. When the dems continue our spiral into total socialism and destroy what this country was founded on. Hopefully then you will see that this was NEVER about the people and their well being.

    It was only for power.
  • mb71jax · 1 month ago
    Change, its all were going to have when obama is done.
  • jackazzflatts · 1 month ago
    obum has succeded in destroying the country.
  • MrCrispy · 1 month ago
    Obama: Change you can step in.


    (although in his defense, he never said "Change for the better"...
  • waytogojax · 1 month ago
    No, he is going to continue working on that.
  • ladyoftheheart · 1 month ago
    Be afraid... be very afraid.
  • IBEBARRYOBAMA · 1 month ago
    ht tp://ww w.youtube.co m/watch?v=wOtGr1JFCnE

    THIS IS A SHAME
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    GLAD to see the Senate has more sense and pronounced the house bill dead.

    There is hope for our country.
  • jermiah · 1 month ago
    I might sound mean here but the bottom Line here sound like people Don't want Obama President. Yeah he doing things to fix what other President have messed up over their terms in Office. but yet we did not knock Bush hard when he made this country go down almost in the dirt. I feel we are still disrespecting our President. If you wanted the health Care bill your way you should have contacted you elect person of office and put in your input. But now the bill has passed you want to fuss and cry about it. I am one of the people who work hard every day but still can not afford health care. So I am hoping this bill would give some of us a break so I can see a Doctor which I have not seen in 4 years because I can't afford it. So in my words if you don't like what the President is don't Don't Vote for him in 2012. THAT'S ALL FOLKS
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    BOTTOM LINE is America was founded for FREEDOM & LIBERTY from TYRANNY.

    AND NOW obama is just taking that away, destroying everything this country was founded on and what MADE US THE GREATEST NATION in the WORLD.

    Our "government" was established to ENFORCE the CONSTITUTION not to give us health care and take our RIGHTS AWAY.....

    THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE_____________________


    You complain about Bush ( FIRST OFF- I DID NOT VOTE FOR OR EVEN LIKE BUSH BUT )

    If George Bush was an idiot. . . .

    If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have laughed and said this is more proof of how he inept he is on his own and is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?

    If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take Laura Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?

    If George W. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of GM stock by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have approved?

    If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics, would you have approved?

    If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved?

    If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic and tacky?

    If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , would you have approved?

    If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the non-existent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a minor slip?

    If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with people who cannot seem to keep current in their income taxes, would you have approved?

    If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco de Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the 5th of May
    (Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you have winced in embarrassment?

    If George W. Bush had mis-spelled the word "advice" would you have hammered him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoe as proof of what a dunce he is?

    If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a single tree on Earth Day, would you have concluded he's a hypocrite?

    If George W. Bush's administration had okayed Air Force One flying low over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually get what happened on 9-11?

    If George W. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in New Orleans , would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue with claims of racism and incompetence?

    If George W. Bush had created the position of 32 Czars who report directly to him, bypassing the House and Senate on much of what is happening in America, would you have approved.

    If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved?

    If George W Bush had proposed to double the national debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have approved?

    If George W. Bush had then proposed to double the debt again within 10 years, would you have approved?

    So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this in 5 months -- so you'll have three years and seven months to come up with an answer.


    EVEN 66% of the people on the survey HERE DISAPPROVE of the obam plan
  • Florida_Native · 1 month ago
    "I might sound mean here but the bottom Line here sound like people Don't want Obama President."

    What do you expect from those who live in trailers and have a rusted pickup with a bed full of beer cans up on blocks in their yard? Northeast Florida is still the most ignorant place in the state.
  • Biotch · 1 month ago
    MOVE THE HELL OUT THEN...IF U DONT LIKE IT! CRANK UP THAT TRAILOR AND DRIVE OFF INTO THE SUNSET! OR OFF A BRIDGE - PREFERRABLY!
  • Florida_Native · 1 month ago
    Sorry my family's probably been here longer than yours (America since the 1660s, Florida since the1880s). They just believed in education (University education beginning in the1700s every generation since the 1880s). Most here don't.
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    If only that was really true.


    An educated person does not post racist B S like that....
  • Hope4Me · 1 month ago
    That is not a true statement. Prejudice is an opinion and everyone has one whether they are educated or not.
  • Florida_Native · 1 month ago
    What I post about Northeast Florida is not racist. It is fact. Take a look at most of the posts here. Doubtful they come from someone who finished high school.

    As to my history,My earliest American ancestors came to Jamestown in the 1660s and came to Pennsylvania as part of William Penn's migration. I have three lineal ancestors who fought in the American Revolution. One from my mother's family, two on my father's side. And BTW I am caucasian.
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    Hey DA biotch why are you telling someone who is agreeing with your madness to go away????

    PROOF that sombody that would use the tag biotch is a complete DA
  • Biotch · 1 month ago
    I was referring to their comment out living in NE florida, you dim wit
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    did you read that???? DA "out living in NE Florida"?
  • goat68 · 1 month ago
    Someone call Indiana and tell them their idiot has escaped and is in Washington DC.
  • mysss_kym · 1 month ago
    I am wondering why everyone blames the goverment for our health care situation. When in truth it all is to blame on the people who use and abuse it. For instance the woman or man who will not work, but are fully capable, have children and draw from the govenmment. They get meds and then go sell them. Or they are doctor hopping to get more meds. To go sell them. The fraud and abuse is what has put our health care where it is today. People ....WE are responsible for our own doings.

    So now President Obama has KINDLY taken it on Himself to try and fix it for those who really need it, But wait...thats NOT good enuf...He isnt doing it the way WE want Him to. BUt wait again...have we as a people ever turned anyone in for abusing the system, when we see it everyday?

    NO then that would take away one more thing we would have to complain about in a chat forum.
  • MrCrispy · 1 month ago
    I posted this below but obviously you don't read through the comments. So here again are some examples of government regulation driving healthcare costs up.

    Each state has their own little goofiness that they have passed into law in order to make the politicians of their state look better. Every time one of these laws is passed, the price goes up.

    Right now, if you buy health insurance in Florida, the insurance company BY LAW has to add a rehab coverage to your health policy. Rehab is expansive. That adds a good amount to your premium. "I'm a healthy and responsible adult who doesn't use drugs or alcohol. I don't want that coverage." you say? Too bad. The state says you have to have it so it's an extra 30 bucks a month.

    If you a girl? Pregnancy coverage. Doesn't matter how responsible or celibate you are. You MUST have pregnancy coverage. That is quite expensive.
  • robyma2 · 1 month ago
    what are the names of our congressman who voted for obamacare? We need to get this list published and vote these clowns out of office.
  • wishmistress · 1 month ago
    This will give you the roll of ayes and nayes

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll887.xml
  • DUT · 1 month ago
    A big concern for those of us who are on Medicare. Already, the place from which I retired with so many before me and those with me have had their insurance benefit taken away. It was a most gracious benefit where for family coverage we could continue the health insurance for $200. Now, under fedral law they must still offer it but we have to pick up the full price plus a fee which amounts to about $1,000 per month. They are offering a medicar supplement through payroll deduction and they will subsidize it with $150 per month. However, it is only with one particular company that has a strong political foothold in this area.

    Now it is OK for them to do that. It is legal. However, hundreds of us have mde our retirement plans based on that benefit. I also have researched and found several other companies who offer better benefits at half the cost of the one being offered by them.
    Now Medicare benefits are being reduced after having paid $1000'sinto it over the years of employment. No one has specualted about what will happen to medicare recipients at least I haven't heard anything on the news. DOES ANYONE CARE ABOUT OLDER FOLK.
  • THEBADWHITEMAN · 1 month ago
    Yes I care. I have a mother who is in your boat. I hate to say this but this is the United States socialism form of gas chambers. They do not put a bullet in a person and burn them they just do not provide health care to speed the death process. Hitler had his death machine, Stallin had his, Castro had his, and now Obama has his version. Nice hu??
  • lamar1 · 4 weeks ago
    still upset over the election results, eh
  • wishmistress · 1 month ago
    Anyone planning on leaving the country (to avoid being left with nothing but the deficit to pay for and the government to work for) better do it before the freakin' government decides that "it's not safe for international travel". If you think that they won't try that one...hmmm.
    After all, somebody's gotta pay the bills.
  • MUDDMOM27 · 1 month ago
    WE NEED A PRESIDENT NOT A MALE DIVA !!!
  • IBEBARRYOBAMA · 1 month ago
    But I am sooooooo pretty. Don't I send chills up your leg when you see me??
  • johnnybegood · 1 month ago
    "Shove it down OUR throat" in 2009, then "WE will stick it up YOUR AZZ in 2010"!!!
  • IBEBARRYOBAMA · 1 month ago
    I like it up the A Z Z. Do not wait until 2010 give it to me now big boy.
  • johnnybegood · 1 month ago
    I would Barry, but I really don't like boys.

    Besides, I am having to work so much with ALL these jobs you made for us disciples.

    Thank YOU Barry, you are still my HERO!
  • THEBADWHITEMAN · 1 month ago
    Yea !!!!!!!!!! we getting free stuff. Thank you Barack Hussein Obama. I think I could get use to this socialism life style. NOT
  • IBEBARRYOBAMA · 1 month ago
    Dats right, take my FREE stuff. I got all the ignorant people drinking the cool aid.
  • oxtailsandcollardgreens · 1 month ago
    You be wacist. :-@
  • lamar1 · 4 weeks ago
    still mad about the election, eh
  • Br0Dave · 1 month ago
    You do mean, "Barack Hussein Obama, MMM,MMM,MMM" don't you?

    To Congress:

    DO NOT DO THIS!!! Anyone who calls themsleves "moderate" WILL be voted out of office if they vote for this DEBACLE!

    We, the people voted for you to REPRESENT US. Think about that, and vote AGAINST any reform of any kind. What we need in the case of health care is not total transformation, but TORT reform and allowing all Americans to buy insurance across state lines would be a great start.

    To spend the kind of money reform would require, no matter how you sugar-coat it, is more than we have or can get. The dirty little secret is, this is not about health care, it is about political power.

    DO NOT allow the government to tell us what we can and cannot do in the area of health care or any other area. The US Constitution is intended to protect us from this kind of thing, but the current regime is ignoring the Constitution and nobody is stopping them.

    This is why we have a checks and balance system, but now the checks and balances have been defeated because democrats are in majority in Congress and the Presidency.

    All we Christians can do is pray. But do not be fooled, prayer is powerful, and God is more powerful than any administration. All God's people need to pray for our leaders, that they will follow His will, and stop the madness.
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    That is why the "Oath Keepers" ( search them ) are gaining in numbers. These "elected officials" have forgotten that they are there to represent US not $$$$$$ and enforce the Constitution.

    This country was founded for FREEDOM & LIBERTY not for money !!!!!!
  • Br0Dave · 1 month ago
    I'll check it out.
  • IBEBARRYOBAMA · 1 month ago
    MMMM MMMM MMMM is right. You want a taste of ole Barry's MMMM MMMM MMMM? Oprah and Michelle love my MMMM MMMM MMMM.
  • wishmistress · 1 month ago
    moderator blocking this..guess they must have voted for the bill?

    repeating for those who haven't read all the posts...the following is a link to see who voted for what followed by a link to their states.

    Read 'em and take action at the polls, folks.

    clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll887.xml


    ...and in case you're not sure of the state of each, here they are...
    house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml
  • Gladlouise · 1 month ago
    For you who mentioned racism again, it have hit home. So don't reply to my comment, because I have nothing for you, because there's no help for you.
    Now, for the one who wrote the "what ifs", what did bush to in his 8 years of embassesments to the United States. All around the countries we as a people were looked as a joke. There was no respect from other countries, at lease we as people might re-gain respect and hopefully we will have world peace. Understand how much this president has to substance in order to get this country back on track, its takes about two turns or more, just as President Clinton; he had to turn this country around in to profit after two turns of bushes. All I am saying to you and the haters, lets give this President a chance, after two years and we don't see a little of what he has promise, then I am with you. Just look at this as if you, married into a family and the house was in an up roar, hopefully you will try everything in your power, but with easy to straighten this matter out, if not you will just fix in with the mess. Also, you must look at the day of this age and time, you must reach the people by all means necessary, he need this right now. Because the President is a person of this era and the next don't hate, but love it.
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    How do you make a profit by spending more???? In just five months he has put the nation to the point of bankruptcy and just ADDED over a TRILLION dollars to that number....

    What Bush did is history now and as a United Nation we prevailed, what obama is doing is destroying the fundamental values of our nation that made us the great nation we were. There is more discourse and racism than ever...

    We do not get respect by borrowing from, bowing to, or begging from other nations. Our government is there to serve us not for us to serve OR be controlled by it..

    Hope and pray we are wrong because if we are not there will be NO RECOVERY from what he IS doing.
  • mb71jax · 1 month ago
    the housing market problem is because of clinton and the job situation in this country is also one of clintons problems remember NAFTA ? . you want everyone to give bush a chance but there were people bashing bush since day one. I am not taking up for bush cause i didnt thing he didnt do a good job at all. why are we worried about other countries thing about us after all if it wasnt for the USA Europe would be speaking German and saluting Swatsikas. and asia would all be speaking Japanese. The USA gives billions every year in Aid to other countries and never get anything back and while this is going on people who use to have jobs are calling customer service and speeking to someone in India who you cannot understand or comprehend anything you say cause there reading a script. The muslim world never back the usa when we were in Bosnia stopping the slaughter of muslims by so called christians . IF we would only drill our oil and stop sending the money to the middle east they might see how much the miss the american dollars and might be more friendly and more willing to back the USA against these people who hate us because were not Muslims. I keep hearing Gladlouise bring up race but I do remember in the elections Jesse Jackson brought Obamas race up I guess he wasnt black enough or was he was raised by white parents if you find out Gladlouise please let me know. Even Barack Obama brought up his race . To me its not about his race cause I will say i wish Herman Cain would run for president he could turn the country around. if you dont know who Herman Cain is go google or yahoo it and read his BIO.
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    ARMAGEDDON has begun
  • robyma2 · 1 month ago
    what are the names of our congressman who voted for obamacare? We need to get this list published and vote these clowns out of office.
  • Guest · 1 month ago
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    WRONG list removed
  • Guest · 1 month ago
    wrong list Watching_U ....my bad. new one up top
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    OH GREAT DISREGARD ABOVE LIST wrong INFO
  • Guest · 1 month ago
    just pull it
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    hiccup fixed
  • Guest · 1 month ago
    just hit edit and erase it all
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    Had to go to profile to erase - EDIT was gone here.. Thanks
  • usgoingtohell · 1 month ago
    i think i'm gonna move out of this country
  • wishmistress · 1 month ago
    Better do it fast while you're still allowed to.
  • bustingout · 1 month ago
    soon we hope
  • Biotch · 1 month ago
    BYE- BYE!!! DONT TALK ABOUT IT.....BE ABOUT IT!
    Maybe dumb azz Bush will let you park your trailer on his lot in dallas
  • bustingout · 1 month ago
    DAT BLAQUE GUY NEEDS A LIFE! or good porn dvd! The Goverment can't run medicare, medicaid or the VA what makes you think the can run the rest?
  • hamertime · 1 month ago
    It's not just O'bamama, we also need to stick it up Puk-o-sli, This is what the G-4 summet is all about! Make the American's broke, so we can come down off our high horses, and become equal's with the rest of the world! This is the Democrats master plan! This is just another step in the Fall Of The American Empire! and many of the young, that YOU raised voted for these Great American killers, of our once proud American people! It's all of the minorities that voted for O'bamama so they can live free, and suck the life out of our once Great American people.
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    America was founded for FREEDOM & LIBERTY - NOT HEALTHCARE !!!!!!!!

    WHY are Americans allowing the first two to be taken away????
  • IBEBARRYOBAMA · 1 month ago
    ht tp://ww w.youtube.c om/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&feature=player_embedded#
  • oxtailsandcollardgreens · 1 month ago
    I's gonna get me some free helf cair. Yaws oh it to me.

    You be wacist if you against it.
  • IBEBARRYOBAMA · 1 month ago
    YEA HOMEBOY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET'EM
  • oxtailsandcollardgreens · 1 month ago
    Sum guy cut mee owf in twaffic tooday...

    He be a wacist.
  • IBEBARRYOBAMA · 1 month ago
    If you are a minority and you are opposed by a white person, especially a male, then yes, that person is a racist. I am proposing a hate crime bill to support that thought process. MMMM MMMM MMMMM
  • oxtailsandcollardgreens · 1 month ago
    Awl blon haiwr blu eye male aw wacist!

    Bawack Hussein Obama..
    YO YO YO
  • friedchickinandwatermelon · 1 month ago
    Hoo yoo tink you are comin up in hear wit a user name like dat? oxtailsandcollardgreens be a wacist...
  • IBEBARRYOBAMA · 1 month ago
    yeppers
  • friedchickinandwatermelon · 1 month ago
    Bawack Hussein Obama..

    MMMMMM MMMMM MMMMM

    Bawack da man...
  • IBEBARRYOBAMA · 1 month ago
    MMMM MMMMM MMMMMM tastes like chicken don't it homey???
  • friedchickinandwatermelon · 1 month ago
    Bawack my boi..

    Larry Sinclair just a wacist gay wite boy...

    Larry know Bawack taste like chikin....the dawk meet... :-@
  • BLAQUE · 1 month ago
    ninjaman.. I see that you are everywhere being a ninja, a fat ninja. You can't even flip.
  • Ninjaman · 1 month ago
    What a hateful, ugly, unforgiving thing to say. I hope you aren't going to try to cut my head off with a butcher knife, or send a suicide bomber near me, or fly a plane into my house. It looks likeyou were up all night abusing the privledge of being able to post on this sight and taking up massive amounts of bandwith. Hummm using Freedom of Speech against us?
  • huntersxe · 1 month ago
    I see you really BELIEVE the "message of love" that you posted above....
    Both you AND your Allah can go to hell...
  • BLAQUE · 1 month ago
    One of the moral traits recommended in the Qur'an is forgiveness:

    Hold to forgiveness, command what is right, and turn away from the ignorant. (Qur'an, 7: 199)

    In another verse Allah commands: "… They should rather pardon and overlook. Would you not love Allah to forgive you? Allah is Ever-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (Qur'an, 24:22)

    Those who do not abide by the moral values of the Qur'an find it very difficult to forgive others. Because, they are easily angered by any error committed. However, Allah has advised the faithful that forgiveness is more proper:

    The repayment of a bad action is one equivalent to it. But if someone pardons and puts things right, his reward is with Allah… (Qur'an, 42:40)

    …. But if you pardon and exonerate and forgive, Allah is Ever-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (Qur'an, 64: 14)

    It has also been revealed in the Qur'an that forgiveness is a superior moral trait: "But if someone is steadfast and forgives, that is the most resolute course to follow." (Qur'an, 42:43) For that reason, believers are forgiving, compassionate and tolerant people who, as revealed in the Qur'an, "control their rage and pardon other people." (Qur'an, 3:134)

    Believers' notion of forgiveness is very different to that of those who do not live by the morals of the Qur'an. Even though many people may say they have forgiven someone who has offended them, it nevertheless takes a long time to free themselves of the hatred and anger in their hearts. Their behaviour tends to betray that anger. On the other hand, the forgiveness of believers is sincere. Because believers know that human beings are tried in this world, and learn by their mistakes, they are tolerant and compassionate. Moreover, believers are also capable of forgiveness even when they are in the right, and the other in the wrong. When forgiving, they make no distinction between large errors and small ones. Someone may cause severe losses to them by mistake. However, believers know that everything takes place under the command of Allah, and according to a specific destiny, and therefore, they surrender themselves to these developments, never acquiescing to anger.

    According to recent research, American scientists established that those capable of forgiveness are healthier in both mind and body. Dr. Frederic Luskin, who holds a Ph.D. in Counselling and Health Psychology from Stanford University, and his team, studied 259 people living in the city of San Francisco. The scientists invited the subjects to attend six one-and-a-half-hour sessions, and aimed to instruct the subjects in forgiveness during their conversations.

    The subjects of the experiments stated that they suffered less after forgiving people who had wronged them. The research showed that people who learned to forgive feel much better, not only emotionally but also physically. For example, it was established that after the experiment psychological and physical symptoms such as stress-related backache, insomnia and stomachaches were significantly reduced in these individuals.

    In his book, Forgive for Good, Dr. Frederic Luskin describes forgiveness as a proven recipe for health and happiness. The book describes how forgiveness promotes such positive states of mind as hope, patience and self-confidence by reducing anger, suffering, depression and stress. According to Dr. Luskin, harboured anger causes observable physical effects in the individual. He goes on to say that:

    The thing about long-term or unresolved anger, is we've seen it resets the internal thermostat. When you get used to a low level of anger all the time, you don't recognize what's normal. It creates a kind of adrenaline rush that people get used to. It burns out the body and makes it difficult to think clearly-making the situation worse.69

    In addition, Dr. Luskin says, when the body releases certain enzymes during anger and stress, cholesterol and blood pressure levels go up-not a good long-term disposition to maintain the body in.70

    An article called "Forgiveness," published in the September-October 1996 edition of Healing Currents Magazine, stated that anger towards an individual or an event led to negative emotions in people, and harmed their emotional balance and even their physical health.71 The article also states that people realise after a while that the anger is a nuisance to them, and wish to repair the damage to the relationship. So, they take steps to forgive. It is also stated that, despite all they endure, people do not want to waste the precious moments of their life in anger and anxiety, and prefer to forgive themselves and others.72

    In another study involving 1,500 people depression, stress and mental illness were observed to be less frequent in religious people. Dr. Herbert Benson, who conducted the research, linked this to the way religions encourage "forgiveness", and went on to say:

    There's a physiology of forgiveness… When you do not forgive, it will chew you up.73

    According to an article titled, "Anger is Hostile To Your Heart," published in the Harvard Gazette, anger is extremely harmful to the heart. Ichiro Kawachi, an assistant professor of medicine, and his team scientifically demonstrated this with various tests and measurements. As a result of their research, they established that grumpy old men had three times the risk of heart disease than their more tempered peers. "The tripling of risk," Kawachi says, "involves high levels of anger, explosive anger that includes smashing things and wanting to hurt someone in a fight."74

    Researchers believe that release of stress hormones, increased oxygen demand by the heart's muscle cells, and added stickiness of blood platelets, which leads to clots explain how anger increases the chance of a heart attack.75 Furthermore, at times of anger, the pulse rises above its normal level, and leads to increased blood pressure in the arteries, and thus to a greater risk of heart attack.

    According to researchers, anger and hostility can also trigger the production of proteins linked to inflammation in the blood. The journal Psychosomatic Medicine suggested that the emotion triggers the production of inflammatory proteins, which may in turn be causing the hardening of the arteries, causing heart disease and stroke.76 According to Associate Professor Edward Suarez of the Duke University Medical Centre in North Carolina, the protein interleukin 6 (or IL-6) is much higher in men who are angry and depressed. High blood levels of IL-6 lead to atherosclerosis, the build-up of fatty deposits in the lining of the walls of arteries.77 According to Suarez, as well as factors such as smoking, high blood pressure, obesity and high cholesterol, heart disease is also linked to psychological states such as depression, anger and hostility.78

    Another article, titled "Anger Raises Risk of Heart Attack," published in The Times, stated that a short temper might be a short cut to a heart attack, and that young men who reacted to stress by becoming angry were three times more likely to develop premature heart disease, and were five times more likely to have an early heart attack.79 Scientists at John Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland, found that quick-tempered men are at risk of heart attack even if there is no family history of heart disease.80

    All the available research shows that anger is a state of mind that seriously damages human health. Forgiveness, on the other hand, even if it comes hard to people, is pleasing, an aspect of superior morals, that eliminates all the harmful effects of anger, and helps the individual to enjoy a healthy life, both psychologically and physically. Forgiveness, of course, is one of a form of behaviour by which a person can stay healthy, and a positive virtue everyone should live by. However, the true aim of forgiveness-as in all else-must be to please Allah. The fact that the features of this sort of morality, and that the benefits of which have been scientifically identified, have been revealed in many verses of the Qur'an, is just one of the many sources of wisdom it contains.
  • huntersxe · 1 month ago
    Then why are your people the most blood-thirsty, backward, barbaric civilations on the face of the earth?
  • MrCrispy · 1 month ago
    I also seem to remember a news story a few years ago about muslims opening fire on a group of female school teachers because the teachers had the audacity of fleeing from a burning building without putting on their headscarves first.

    is this the so called religion of peace?
  • harley07fatboy · 1 month ago
    If these are things that Allah is saying, then tell me this; why would Allah tell his followers to kill the infidels?

    Also those that have follow your religion and declared JUHAD don't have to worry about heart attacks. They just have to worry about whether they have killed enough people in the name of Allah. They are not going to get their 72 virgins; they are going to get 72++ nut cases just like them when they pass on.
  • bustingout · 1 month ago
    GET A GOOD PORN TAPE!!!!!!!
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    HEY DA America lives by the BIBLE - NOT the qur'an
  • harley07fatboy · 1 month ago
    For all those here and for the Republicans and Democrats that voted no, tell us your plan for Health Care. What would you do to get health care for all in this country? How would you pay for it? These are questions that need to be asked. So many b**** and complain but have no solution. The old saying goes "For every problem you see, you should have a solution to fix that problem."

    Give the man, Obama, credit for one thing; he is keeping to his campaign promises. Whether bad or good, he is keeping to his promises. That is more then I can say about past presidents.
  • huntersxe · 1 month ago
    Well, brilliant one, when I was a kid, BEFORE the GOVERNMENT got involved in the FIRST place, the doctor came to our house (and we were NOT rich!). Since government started DICTATING to Doctors, Hospitals, Insurance companies and US, the prices have gone up. With each new law it costs more to comply so we pay more to the doctors and hospitals. GET THE GOVERNMENT OUT and prices will go down.
    But those BRILLIANT ones like YOU want the government to run your entire life, cradle to grave... and with the GOVERNMENT dictating what doctor you can see and what medicines you can have, I hope you've got the GOVERNMENT paying for your grave.... You'll need it much sooner!!
  • MrCrispy · 1 month ago
    Actually the Republicans have introduced their own plan which would have REMOVED all the stupid government mandates that are driving the prices up right now. Remember, when the government gets involved, prices go UP. When the free market is allowed to be free, the prices go down.

    Some highlights from the republican plan: Increasing incentives for people to use health savings accounts, Capping non-economic awards in medical malpractices cases, Incentives for states to drive down premium costs, Allowing health insurance to be sold across state lines

    Right now, if you buy health insurance in Florida, the insurance company BY LAW has to add a rehab coverage to your health policy. Rehab is expansive. That adds a good amount to your premium. "I'm a healthy and responsible adult who doesn't use drugs or alcohol. I don't want that coverage." you say? Too bad. The state says you have to have it so it's an extra 30 bucks a month.
    If you a girl? Pregnancy coverage. Doesn't matter how responsible or celibate you are. You MUST have pregnancy coverage.
    The list goes on and on.
  • ClayismyHome · 1 month ago
    I see the naysayers have jumped on this like hotcakes. I say, the constitution, in it's preamble clearly states we the people established our governing bodies to insure the general welfare, provide for the common defense and secure the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our posterity. It does not say to secure the blessings of liberty for everyone else in the world or to insure a higher corporate profit margin. You people are so bought and paid for by the corporate empire, you are as bad as the lobbiests that buy our politicians and tell them how to vote. For once, the lobbiests have been ignored and maybe some of Americas money will actually be spent on the American people.
  • mjenni27 · 1 month ago
    What about the liberty to decide for ourselves if we want health insurance? I guess we can throw that part of the preamble away, the part about the pursuit of happiness, huh? The money being spent will come from the people. And they will have to pay it whether they want to or not, under penalty of law. Congress just ignored the will of the people and during a weekend session 219 democrats and one RINO just told the American people that we have no say in our healthcare!
  • huntersxe · 1 month ago
    You just want to be "taken care of" you welfare brood-mare
  • MrCrispy · 1 month ago
    Providing for the welfare of the country doesn't mean proving the country welfare. It means keeping the people and the republic safe from outside threats. Nowhere does the word "health" show up in there.

    In fact, the administration has treated the constitution as more of a roadblock or nuisance to be ignored than THE BLUEPRINT TO THIS COUNTRY.
  • capncuda · 1 month ago
    I think we are going to see this BLAQUE guy, on TV, climbing to the top of a clock tower,with a high powered rifle.
  • jaxdodger · 1 month ago
    Why all the arguments about a bill that NONE OF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT? First it must pass the Senate, where, if it passes, it will be much changed from its present state; and secondly there are 2.000 pages that were still being changed last night so most legislators and NO voters even know what is in it! Let's wait till the final passage and our legislators, professors, insurance companies, and medical associations, and hopefully some responsible journalists go through the paper trail and explain it to us before we all go ballistic over something we know NOTHING ABOUT! And don't forget...there were millions in pork barrel projects for the States of the Democrats that were opposed to this bill to win their votes.
  • THEBADWHITEMAN · 1 month ago
    Good point....but if we know nothing about it then why was it voted on. So much for We the People and Transparency
  • jaxdodger · 1 month ago
    Because Obama and Pelosi want something passed before the end of the year. Many of the Congress who voted this bill have not read the entire thing. It is over 2,000 pages long and was changed up to the last minute. A political farce on an unsuspecting public.
  • THEBADWHITEMAN · 1 month ago
    I agree. Can you imagine what your boss would do if you did your job in the same manner as these people? Can you say FIRED?
  • wishmistress · 1 month ago
    Apparently, you haven't been paying attention.
  • MrCrispy · 1 month ago
    here's my question then: why would they vote on a bill that wasn't even finished yet?
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    happens all the time - WELCOME to politicians logic
  • wishmistress · 1 month ago
    Read 'em and take action at the polls, folks.

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll887.xml


    ...and in case you're not sure of the state of each, here they are...
    house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml
  • rollinondis · 1 month ago
    Oh yeah how did the sandbag lady vote?
  • Gladlouise · 1 month ago
    I am already reading the blogger's comment in regards to PRESIDENT OBAMA. It very sad and most all embrassing to know that there is still hate among American people after all this country has been through. We as a people must stand by our President and the ones elective to provide for us. You stood by Bush for 8 years of his #@!* up, now let President Obama try to clean up 8 years all the bushes has grown around the country. Lets give him a chance, he have been in office less than a yeart, but you all gave bush an addition 4 years to continue to mess thing ups. Shut the #%* up and set back, let him make his mistakes, as you are not perfect either. And for you who want to leave the country the door is open, you aren't any good anyways so go to another country and I bet, you will ask us to open the door for you when you return or knock it down to come back in. The grass isn't always greener, you must work together to make what we have greener. For all you bias people, I wish I could get a ship large enough to place all of you on it and ship you away, because color is your thing and I would ship you to a country where there to is a color thing and lets see what fair trade you will receive.
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    IT IS NOT A RACE ISSUE it is a LOVE FOR THIS COUNTRY ISSUE

    You complain about Bush ( FIRST OFF- I DID NOT VOTE FOR OR EVEN LIKE BUSH BUT )

    If George Bush was an idiot. . . .

    If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have laughed and said this is more proof of how he inept he is on his own and is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?

    If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take Laura Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?

    If George W. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of GM stock by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have approved?

    If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics, would you have approved?

    If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved?

    If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic and tacky?

    If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , would you have approved?

    If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the non-existent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a minor slip?

    If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with people who cannot seem to keep current in their income taxes, would you have approved?

    If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco de Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the 5th of May
    (Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you have winced in embarrassment?

    If George W. Bush had mis-spelled the word "advice" would you have hammered him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoe as proof of what a dunce he is?

    If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a single tree on Earth Day, would you have concluded he's a hypocrite?

    If George W. Bush's administration had okayed Air Force One flying low over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually get what happened on 9-11?

    If George W. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in New Orleans , would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue with claims of racism and incompetence?

    If George W. Bush had created the position of 32 Czars who report directly to him, bypassing the House and Senate on much of what is happening in America, would you have approved.

    If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved?

    If George W Bush had proposed to double the national debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have approved?

    If George W. Bush had then proposed to double the debt again within 10 years, would you have approved?

    So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this in 5 months -- so you'll have three years and seven months to come up with an answer.
  • Hope4Me · 1 month ago
    George W. Bush surely wpuld not have been elected if his nmiddle name were Hussein or however the new Pres spells his.
    There were mosre protestors and more written about GWB and his mistakes. He pretty much laid low toward the remaining yrs in ofc and you never heard hardly anything about his wife.

    I am in agreement with you on the "differences" tha tyou stated between the two. I hav always felt and believed Obama is a front man for a few powerful corrupted people that the Americans would have never have elected if one had run for President.
  • Ninjaman · 1 month ago
    Oh, Obama is a front man for sure.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&feat...
  • cdeuce01 · 1 month ago
    The only answer she will be able to come up with is everyone on here is racist.Its the uniform answer to all the lefts arguments.
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    Oh HOW TRUE THAT IS !!!

    let me explane to thos hoo dont undrstnd --- true dat, tey jus a buch of wasit.

    GET READY FOR THE UNIVERSAL LANGUAGE ALSO
  • James Shanks · 1 month ago
    It's funny how in your effort to imitate a stereotype, you still ended your first sentence with a preposition. What's even worse, is that with the few exceptions to ending your sentence with a preposition, you still fail. Yet, you still claim you're not racist whilst perpetuating stereotypical rhetoric.
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    I didn't claim anything personally
  • ChiTowne · 1 month ago
    Exactly James,...

    That's why there is a conflict of interest when I hear someone try to make a point and then completely contradict themselves.
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    again, the ONLY response is racism
  • James Shanks · 1 month ago
    You're a liar. If you've never personally claimed anything, then you wouldn't have posted "Oh HOW TRUE THAT IS !!!", in response to a comment posted by cdeuce01. Your association with that sentiment is your personal claim. Take accountability.
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    ROTFLMAO
  • stuckinabean · 1 month ago
    That's funny. I seem to remember George Bush REPEATEDLY mentioning "nucular" warfare while he was in office. He wasn't cultured or linguistically talented, but we had to put up with him. You're just mad because you'll have to start paying taxes on your income. Bush allowed you to keep more of it while driving the middle class into poverty.
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    WHAT ??? start paying taxes ???? how do you figure that to be the issue, do you think I am somme upper class MILLIONAIRE sitting here posting on News 4 Jax???


    Hey DA, get out of your bean and see the real world
  • ChiTowne · 1 month ago
    lol.. you all on New4Jax have too much time on your hands..

    If George W Bush....... lol Really??

    You can make a list for every president if thats the case...


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  • ChiTowne · 1 month ago
    BTW.. you all seem very passionate about your political believes, which is fine, thats why were in America, However... if you take thats same passion to help lend a hand to make your community a better place, I would respect your opinions more often then not.

    You all know exactly what I'm talkin about.....

    follow me on twitter.com/********
  • THEBADWHITEMAN · 1 month ago
    Yea you want someonen to lend a hand to the black man because generally he will not raise his kids, generally will not seek his own education, generally not maintain a job, generally populates the majority of the jails and prisons, and is generally a burden on society. Chi Town is a ghetto in and of itself. No wonder you named yourself after it. Moocher
  • lamar1 · 4 weeks ago
    and you are generally a suicidal, child molestor
  • ChiTowne · 4 weeks ago
    Who said anything about lending to the "black man". The moment you read my post you immediatly saw what you wanted to see.

    Your community can be any race people.

    And btw, Chicago is a beautiful city, come on up and visit....
  • THEBADWHITEMAN · 4 weeks ago
    I have been to CHITOWN several times. Just a bigger version of JAX. Most of it is nasty.
  • THEBADWHITEMAN · 1 month ago
    PS my community is fine....just as long as we can keep the thugs, white trash, and hood rats out
  • lamar1 · 4 weeks ago
    If they do move in, just move your trailer some place else
  • wishmistress · 1 month ago
    The ever present race issue strikes again!
  • 1ofgodsown · 1 month ago
    The GOOD NEWS is "IF" they do put a bill together from BOTH houses it would NOT go in effect until 2013 which gives the PEOPLE a chance to REMOVE the IDIOTS who voted for this GARBAGE & replace them with NEW MEMBERS of BOTH HOUSES that can then OVERTURN it & SAVE all of our butts before we are all BANKRUPTED by a VERY POOR EXCUSE for a plan! BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA in NOT OUR FRIEND!!!!!
  • Hope4Me · 1 month ago
    It is a waste of my time and energy as is not worth commmenting one's opinion that consistently has no understanding of English grammar as it makes one's comment(s) appear hard to understand and follow.
    That's my comment: that is my opinion. It has nothing to do with race. I am definitely not perfect and make mistakes.Yet, when it comes to something as touchy as a political issue it helps to write something that does not leave one thinking, "Say what now?"
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    what
  • Hope4Me · 1 month ago
    Was written for the commentor 2 comments down who does not care to be replied to.
  • Watching_U · 1 month ago
    I know, I was just messing with you. You said "say what now " so I did
  • Angry_vet · 3 weeks ago
    PELOSI is ITALIAN for FONDA !!!